The specific treatment areas for Thermage and Ultherapy are slightly different. Ultherapy has three major treatment areas:. The treatment is FDA approved for tightening the skin in the chin and neck area and for tightening the skin on the brows.
When used on the face, Thermage is specifically FDA approved for treating wrinkles. Unlike Ultherapy, Thermage is also approved for use in the area around the eyes. It can help to reduce droopiness in the eyelids and minimize bags and dark circles under the eyes.
Since both Thermage and Ultherapy are non-surgical treatments, neither option requires a lengthy downtime. Depending on your personality and preferences, you might be able to return to work right after your treatment. How long the treatment takes depends on the method you choose and the area you have treated.
Thermage treatments can take anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour and a half. We and our partners process data to: Actively scan device characteristics for identification. I Accept Show Purposes. Table of Contents View All. Table of Contents. Possible Side Effects. Tips and Considerations. How Dermal Fillers Smooth Wrinkles. What Is a Liquid Facelift? Was this page helpful? Thanks for your feedback! Sign Up. What are your concerns? Verywell Health uses only high-quality sources, including peer-reviewed studies, to support the facts within our articles.
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No visible results on either site yet, but I know it takes awhile. The CO2 was done in my 30's. It tightened a little but did zero for pore size or improving skin surface.
The two Thermage treatments were done in my 40's. I got remarkable results. It is excruciatingly painful but I got results immediately and I'm not talking about the swelling. After Thermange my skin looked fresher, smaller pored, tighter and had more of a healthy glow than it had my entire life. I am an RN and an author. There is a pic of me on my book taken when I was See for yourself what Thermage can do. Call me a skeptic, but I'd credit your good looks to the combination of good genetics, not baking too much in the sun as a youth, good skin-care, and other factors to your credit, rather than the thermage treatment.
Additionally, professional help at the photo shoot with optimal lighting, photography, hair and make-up always helps us to look our best. If you are using Titan at 35 joules you are not doing the procedure correctly. Never have I had to stop or dial down due to patient discomfort. I suggest you go to a conference an learn the newest techniques. You will be much happier with your results and so will your clients.
Refills are a rip off. At least with Thermage I am its believer , there is scientific evidence to prove its depth of penetration and collagennesis both in-vitro and in-vivo. I have not seen any such from Cutera. If you can not safely get below 2mm depth, you really cannot make much claims of effects on collagen denaturation breakdown of intracellular bonds and rescaffolding via intercellular bonds and collagenesis.
Really don't care for your LIAR accusations. Any time you want, stop by my office and I will show you how to use Titan and use it at 65 Joules. I will also have plenty of happy clients lined up to prove you wrong as well. Just let me know when you want to stop by. I know exactly how you feel; my brothers are upset that I got the looks AND the brains.
Robert: Let's be more cordial on this post. I have been doing non-invasive cosmetics since , done thermage in a few thousand cases.
As physicians we are also scientists. We DO believe in in-vitro and in-vivo and evidence-based proofs. I have not seen anything scientifically speaking from Titan that is even remotely scientifically based. Thus you end up with this "wild wild west" guessing-based way of treating the public.
We definitely need to learn from each others. I checked out your site and saw that one picture from titan. I have hundreds of thermage photos with chronological dates to share with you if you like to see them.
We also use 65J on the standard or if you have V- visible. Is there a HUGE clinical difference in these devices The thing that makes Cutera Titan bad for anyone is refills -- a total waste of time and money. You are quite right. There is only one Titan picture on my website. However, I have many more stored in my office PC.
I am not interested in treating my patients with brutallity therefore I am not interested in your thermage photoalbum. The fact is that my patients are happy with their results following Titan. It is actually our best selling package. How could that be if it does not work? She had no results but did nothing against that physician. Thus I am sure that MD would have the same presumption.
I am not saying thermage is better than titan. However, as scientists we are also trained to look at a technology with critical eyes and thru certain "well established" methods.
The truth about Thermage is that the "seemingly inconsistent outcomes" have nothing to do with its monopolar RF technology at all. Monopolar RF is a very powerful and clinically effective mode for collagen denaturation and genesis via its original applications in oncology tumor necrosis and neurology nerve destruction. The problem is due to the lack of scientifically and clearly defined treatment guidelines that ALL practitioners can duplicate.
When we talk about the Titan. First of all, it is not FDA approved for skin tightening. There is no in-vitro nor in-vivo nor histologic evidence of its effects on the collagen level that I am aware of. Because of this, Cutera created this "" scheme in hope that the other "technologies" would somehow make things look decent enough so the patients would not be too ticked off.
Anyway, if you and your patients are happy with Titan then good for you. I am simply trying to speak from a scientist perpective. I am not sure I want to get in the middle of the "pissing" match but I have to agree with pmdoc. I have had the Titan for almost 3 years and have not had great results. I have had some patient response and some minimal but never a "WOW".
I have since replaced the Titan with Thermage and my patients have been happier. This is just my experience with the Titan. I have tried all of the tricks recommended by Cutera with no better results. I was doing more passes before it was even recommended by Cutera. I would sell the system if I wer not still using the nm laser. Titan was the worst financial decision I have made. LH: Let me know when you are in Los Angeles area so we can meet. I really look forward to meeting you since there are lots of things I am sure we can intellectualize about.
Robert: I don't mean to create some unfriendly atmosphere between us. What we need to do is to be united against bad people like that one chiropractor from FL who hid behind the back of an MD to run this "laser teaching operation" supposedly teaching MD's how to get into the laser business charging thousands of dollars. He essentially runs a "legalized scam operation", hiding under the FDA approval stamp.
We use Carboxytherapy for fat zap, skin tightenning and cellulite hydrolipodystrophy treatment. Our patients are very hapy and usually report improvements the following day. On smaller areas such as double chin, neck, eye bags our patients report improvements as soon as hours follwoing Carboxytherapy treatment. Hi Velvetee, the treatments are both very similar, it depends on the condition you are treating and the desired results. Comments Velvetee. Thanks you Tracey, but please advise if both treatments are similar, why is Thermage so much more expensive?
I have been wondering.
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